Castles in video games are awesome but what is the best way to include them into online survival PVP video games from a gameplay perspective. This is an open letter to Funcom who made Conan Exiles.
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KittenyKat
15.05.2023I'm looking back on these videos a year later and wondering if the PVE-C system answered some of these problems for you and your friends. Are you playing on that type of server these days?
aptom203
15.05.2023The offline raiding meta is what really put me off all these survival style games. I've played Ark: Survival Evolved and Rust and in both cases it really just boils down to waiting until the person you want to rob has to go to sleep or work and then blowing their base to bits while they are not there. People very rarely actually duke it out in real PvP on most of these survival base building games.
My personal favourite method is the one they use in EVE online- if your base is attacked, it becomes invulnerable and notifies you. You then have 24 hours to prepare for the attack, and it becomes vulnerable again.
D Sheep
15.05.2023They need to put ship and boats.
Christian E. Y.
15.05.2023If only doors were indestructible, people would build bases with the cheapest materials so they can destroy and replace walls instead of installing doors. If logging out makes your base indestructible for half an hour, people would log in and log out every 25 minutes during a siege.
Neon
15.05.20239:57 another solution could be to implement a rebuild spell you can use when ennemies are gone out of a certain radius around the base
Rick J
15.05.2023Gotta say Love the video and Love the way you thing Sire. Personally I think you should truly think about getting hooked with some other ppl and create a Game. If you take the best parts of the top 5-10 Survival games and smash them together, I would buy the game in a heartbeat. I do however think the players should be allowed to choice Fantasy or Realistic versions. I loved skyrim but the idea of Elves, Orcs, Giants and so on, are just not for everyone. I truly want to find a game that brings me to a Medieval World but a Realistic Medieval World.. Love both but realism is just more fitting for me…. Love your Channel. I will also check out Conan Exiles but for the most part I have been playing RUST, SCUM, Skyrim..
Phantavius*
15.05.2023Does Shad still play this game?
Zeph
15.05.2023I think a big problem with these games is that IRL castles were fully garrisoned and guarded 24/7. If some schmuck wanted to run up to the wall with explosives they'd probably just get shot. Even though conan has slaves they aren't enough to defend a castle with, especially if you're getting offlined.
But this isn't something you can easily circumvent. Making AI stronger is one possibility, and they could even be much stronger when you're offline, but even then it's likely you can just sneak past them to breach the wall or just pick them off at range. More AI is just not practical as the game is already laggy enough.
Redfox
15.05.2023i like pve private servers for this reason. i like big build projects and i figure in games like ark or conan, theres enough things out there trying to kill you. do you really need a bunch of griefers on top of that?
Steel_axe
15.05.2023Watching this a year later and 7 days took this advice. (For changing the shape of the building pieces)
Scott Braun
14.05.2023Add to your suggestions, expanding the map you speak of, to incompass the whole planet. Not just what appears to be just one, grantedly huge ..continent. I figure, you'll be unable to fully roam, an entire planet -without, preposterously, never sleeping..ever..again.
Scott Braun
14.05.2023"An awesome castle".
I think a simple way to keep to the rules you propose, and still make seemingly invincible fortress/castle, multi layered sliding block doors. Only truly dedicated sege weapons, in ridiculously large numbers, would still have a chance. It's not well noted, but, in those times, such things did exist. The task to find the proof, may be a monster, but it happened.
Scott Braun
14.05.2023Also after all the effort, put into the constructed pieces of real-estate, they should be able download the things you make.
Also, what about your, "thralls", or other collection of followers, that you populated your base with, being defenders. After all, it your servants, live there to, and so, it's expected, that they would want to defend their house and home, just like you.
Just because you leave your real house and home, shouldn't mean, it's justified that anyone can break into it, and wreck and/or take your stuff.
Scott Braun
14.05.2023Make crenelations out of pillars..when they let you finally get to put them on the edges of things.
Scott Braun
14.05.2023Again, in case I am mistaken by any one, just because, you leave the house for a while …(to go to work -or on vacation..if you can), why can't an private army, living in your barics, defend the fortress/castle, sending you a signal for help, "from their Lord".?
With this, like in the real world, you most likely will still have something to come back to -& for. Instead of merely rebuilding from empty rubble.
erjoh
14.05.2023Like your idea….make the spikes vulnerable like your door idea. Just the fences.
Gentlemen's club holy edition
14.05.2023What if you are like way to tired to play any longer, and people raid you just as your about to get off.
B Richard Collebrusco
14.05.2023Shad, I think you'd enjoy the new Valheim game. While its build system isn't quite in depth as Conan, yet… It's a very good system that I think address a lot of what you say in this video.
Kukuhero
14.05.2023if the walls collapses so its still difficult to get over it and after raiding the castle, looting the resources with a time limit would be also a nice feature. So the walls break down and the attacking players can loot some amount of each broken wall. If a player is a long time offline the base wouldn't be gone, but would become a ruin and eventually be gone. Therefore raids would become a real long event and the wipe of a server even longer.
By the way i never played conan but i will get in to it now, so sorry if some things are already in the game
FishFossils
14.05.2023As far as offline raiding it does have something that makes it so I really don’t mind, and that is raid hours, its a fairly short window for people to raid, and if you pick a server in your time zone its gonna be from 6:00pm-10:00pm so only 4 hours, and personally i dont mind that, i kinda like it actually, it makes you get on at least once a day for just a few hours. The real thing I recommend is find a friendly server, there are pvp servers with generally friendly people who don’t raid unless raided. Those are the servers to look for
Lord_Rabe
13.05.2023Is there an shad army brand on ps4?
WJS
13.05.2023When you say you could destroy castles as easily as in the game with explosives in real life, I think you're very wrong about that. Could you destroy castles with explosives? Of course. Would it be as easy as in the game? No way. A jug filled with explosives placed next to a solid stone wall would barely scratch it in real life. Demolishing buildings as strong as castles is way more involved than that.
aka 47
13.05.2023i loled at the part where shad said "while i have funcoms ear"…. hes new to funcom game…and their coomunication with players isnt he?^^
Sebastián Trotta
13.05.2023Which are the games that appears at the begining?
Crim Zen
13.05.2023Offline raiding is a problem. Event timed raids are a decent solution (basically a discord organized raid time.)
Crim Zen
13.05.2023Vaulted ceilings should add to stability and corners should cost less.
Barni Yamum
13.05.2023great vid yo
Aaagaga Tagtgtt
13.05.202330:15 "Take off collisions for crenellations" – But the primary point of merlons is to stop (enemy) arrows (I'm sorry, but I stand in the opinion that their awsomely intimidating appearance is secondary, and the anti-climbing spikes are the tertiary points (pun)). If your defending soldiers are too inept to shoot through the crenels they need an AI upgrade.
30:25 I'm pretty sure the building inspector would not sign off on those stair railings.
Saphire Gough
13.05.2023"Look at the castles": 8:54
Seaham 3D
13.05.2023I can see your knicker line good Cristian boy.
Baziwan
11.05.2023I think Icarus devs listened to this video. Every complaint about the building with variant pieces like roofs seems to have been addressed.
Jaden Sicari
11.05.2023I would have never guessed u played this game
ItsDomke
11.05.2023I'm 2 years late but when you mentioned making the structure indestructible except for doors I immediately thought of an exploit. People would keep a foundation in front of an important door that they'd destroy and replace any time they need in. It would make accessing whole rooms (and indeed possibly the entire building) impossible.
Savage Talk
11.05.2023Since this video is sadly two years old it seems they chose not to fix much 🙁
Nichole Haddon
11.05.2023I don't know about the PC version but on the ps4 they fixed the menu sorting… kinda. You can sort by specific dlcs, but it they should separate the building pieces from the work benches at least. Kinda annoying to look through alllllll of the a certain one. Can we talk about the font size too? Feels like the font is getting smaller and smaller.
Robotron Sage
11.05.2023Video games should be free change my mind
''bb-but developers need money''
Shut your mouth i'm developing a game and will be publishing it for free.
The entire economy shouldn't have to tank just because someone thought it was a ''good idea'' to ''capitalise'' on a non-tangible product that you can distribute and copy infinitely without it actually costing a penny. Farming industry simply can't keep up and neither can i.
HEY DID U BUY THE DLC MICROTRANSACTIONS AND LOOTBOX BATTLE PASS PACK YET SON?
James Duke
11.05.2023I actually like the way it is. Now to be honest I only play off line with admin engaged. But I like to just build. Your vids are educational and I do like them. But we wouldn't get along. I really like square type buildings. 😊
Tyler Youel
11.05.2023Love the way you play, I play the same, wish your server was for ps4 I'd def join lol
McWolf
11.05.2023Making structures indestructible except for doors and traps wouldn't work since people would simply replace doorframes and doors with stone – or even just put some stone in front or behind doors – before going offline, and then remove the stone when they log back in. You'd have to also make the structure unchangeable for the owning player, which would mean you could only build something and then declare it to be "done" and henceforth indestructible – not a good idea since then, people could all too easily wall others in (if necessary with a "griefing account" so they could then stay offline forever while still playing on the server with their main account… Yeah, I've known assholes like that…)
AlphaOmega
11.05.20233:50 Ha! Enthralling, i see what you did there.
Sanguinius Szuiriel
10.05.2023I needed that verbal triangle building walkthrough more than I though
Nameless Foster
10.05.2023I think it would be a wonderful idea to start your own Conan Server. One that your subscribers could join you in and with set rules and events. A healthy and exciting competitive environment for the few people that still play with game lmao
Matt Smith
10.05.2023@28:50 HA, I was waiting for this part. I knew you'd get to it sooner or later. Those crenellations are useless. I can walk right off them without even tripping over them. Those a purely decorative.
Claude Gelinas
10.05.2023Frankly, if the building gets destroyed with a few hundreds explosive arrow (are they too easy to produce? instead of increments of 10, why not 3…), Then they need to either increase the base resistance or reduce the effect of explosive arrow much less efficient.
I hated it when I h ad a awesome place build in the trees , to see someone climbing another tree and just unleashed 200 or so explosive arrow… needless to say, my whole place has been whiped out. The dud didn't get anything, he just destroyed and left… we spent weeks building it!
Bigjoem
10.05.2023I know this is late how about rather then indestructible make it nearly impossible to destroy without siege equipment, increasing the health of the walls and foundations to the point of being unable to be destroyed by hand or weapons and only siege equipment could deal enough damage to destroy them quickly, and make siege equipment harder to build, That makes more sense then it better indestructible to me.
Harry Mu
10.05.2023I would agree: stone walls is like… well.. A DAMN ROCK
even when you throw boulder against boulder it barely has much effect except for jolts in the ground.
Only when you have stupidly high PSI delivery weapons like cannon balls do they break. walls shouldn't break from a hand sized pottery loaded with powder. its gotta be massive trebuchets or something just stupidly powerful .
further, I think in terms of base defense, there should be chains of command.
As you, the player, build and live in the castle, you've gone above and beyond as the lord of the castle and there should be soldiers that you can shout orders to, say, close the gate, open the gate, ready archers, ready internal catapults, etc.
I MEAN THE DEVOTEES ARE COMMANDABLE RIGHT
Bia Armstrong
10.05.2023Shad you may not be checking these videos but I think you'd be glad to know that they have since overhauled the building system greatly in the most recent update. All you need is the base materials to make the part and you can build the part in any position as long as you have the building hammer. It also allows you to build crafting stations from within the hammer's menu
CJ Murphy
10.05.2023I stopped playing games like conan because I got so sick and demoralized by building these beautiful bases which get devastated while I'm away. Even in games like arc or day z, it sucks when your offline and someone happens apon your base. I just got tired of it so I stopped playing.
kargaroc386
10.05.2023So something like 2b2t, but less vulgar and more balanced in favor of defense. (the only even remotely functional defensive strategy on 2b2t is distance and absolute secrecy, sometimes to the point of not actually playing because if you're online they can tell where you are)
so maybe 2b2t is closer to your sci-fi setting actually.
Shadiversity
10.05.2023The Direct Connect IP to the PC Conan sever I'm currently playing on is: 158.69.120.193:7779 Here is a link to the server's discord: https://discord.gg/mSKEucf
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